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Fantasy » alt.fan.pratchett » [R]Terror, Panic, Clancy and Thief of Time
| [R]Terror, Panic, Clancy and Thief of Time [message #262891] |
Sa, 06 Mai 2006 13:47 |
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What were they doing at that time? And had they ever met Susan?
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| Re: [R]Terror, Panic, Clancy and Thief of Time [message #262899 ] |
Sa, 06 Mai 2006 16:53 |
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chornedsnorkack [at] hushmail.com wrote:
> What were they doing at that time? And had they ever met Susan?
I give up. Can we have a clue please?
BriD
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| Re: [R]Terror, Panic, Clancy and Thief of Time [message #262908 ] |
Sa, 06 Mai 2006 17:03 |
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"BriD(bethbriuk [at] yahoo.co.uk)" <bethbriuk [at] yahoo.co.uk> writes:
> chornedsnorkack [at] hushmail.com wrote:
> > What were they doing at that time? And had they ever met Susan?
>
> I give up. Can we have a clue please?
Panic, Terror and Clancy -- those would be the children of War,
mentioned in (I think) Faust^WEric. And ToT.
Susan was always somewhat lonely, being as it were a grandchild of the
Apocalypse. It's a good question though -- wouldn't children of the
Apocalypse form her natural peer group?
Cheers,
Matthew
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Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 7 Priory Courtyard
Flat 3
PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Ramsgate
Kent, CT11 9PW
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| Re: [R]Terror, Panic, Clancy and Thief of Time [message #262909 ] |
Sa, 06 Mai 2006 17:23 |
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Also Sprach Matthew Seaman:
> "BriD(bethbriuk [at] yahoo.co.uk)" <bethbriuk [at] yahoo.co.uk>
> writes:
>
>> chornedsnorkack [at] hushmail.com wrote:
>> > What were they doing at that time? And had they ever met
>> > Susan?
>>
>> I give up. Can we have a clue please?
>
> Panic, Terror and Clancy -- those would be the children of
> War, mentioned in (I think) Faust^WEric. And ToT.
Don't think they're in either. It's IT they pop up in. ToT
features War's wife, but no mention of the kids. Which may be
the original poster's question.
> Susan was always somewhat lonely, being as it were a
> grandchild of the Apocalypse. It's a good question though
> -- wouldn't children of the Apocalypse form her natural
> peer group?
War and Terror, and probably Clancy, were raised as
anthropomorphic personifications, though. They would have very
little in common with "mostly mortals" like Susan and Lobsang.
--
Dave
Official Absentee of EU Skiffeysoc
http://www.eusa.ed.ac.uk/societies/sesoc
"[Wolverine]'s in every book. I think he just joined
the JLA, and for some reason he's in the revised
Penguin edition of Little Dorrit." -Joss Whedon
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| Re: [R]Terror, Panic, Clancy and Thief of Time [message #263713 ] |
Mo, 08 Mai 2006 18:09 |
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Daibhid Ceanaideach wrote:
> Also Sprach Matthew Seaman:
>
> > "BriD(bethbriuk [at] yahoo.co.uk)" <bethbriuk [at] yahoo.co.uk>
> > writes:
> >
> >> chornedsnorkack [at] hushmail.com wrote:
> >> > What were they doing at that time? And had they ever met
> >> > Susan?
> >>
> >> I give up. Can we have a clue please?
> >
> > Panic, Terror and Clancy -- those would be the children of
> > War, mentioned in (I think) Faust^WEric. And ToT.
>
> Don't think they're in either. It's IT they pop up in. ToT
> features War's wife, but no mention of the kids. Which may be
> the original poster's question.
>
Indeed.
> > Susan was always somewhat lonely, being as it were a
> > grandchild of the Apocalypse. It's a good question though
> > -- wouldn't children of the Apocalypse form her natural
> > peer group?
>
> War and Terror, and probably Clancy, were raised as
> anthropomorphic personifications, though. They would have very
> little in common with "mostly mortals" like Susan and Lobsang.
>
Unlike Lobsang and Susan, Ysabell was raised in a household shared by
only one human (Alberto) and a master looking less human than War. This
raises the question of how Clancy, especially, was raised. There is no
mention of Death having ever been raised, or War for the matter.
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| Re: [R]Terror, Panic, Clancy and Thief of Time [message #263802 ] |
Mo, 08 Mai 2006 22:04 |
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chornedsnorkack [at] hushmail.com wrote:
> Daibhid Ceanaideach wrote:
>> Also Sprach Matthew Seaman:
>>
>>> "BriD(bethbriuk [at] yahoo.co.uk)" <bethbriuk [at] yahoo.co.uk>
>>> writes:
>>>
>>>> chornedsnorkack [at] hushmail.com wrote:
>>>>> What were they doing at that time? And had they ever met
>>>>> Susan?
>>>> I give up. Can we have a clue please?
>>> Panic, Terror and Clancy -- those would be the children of
>>> War, mentioned in (I think) Faust^WEric. And ToT.
>> Don't think they're in either. It's IT they pop up in. ToT
>> features War's wife, but no mention of the kids. Which may be
>> the original poster's question.
>>
> Indeed.
>
>>> Susan was always somewhat lonely, being as it were a
>>> grandchild of the Apocalypse. It's a good question though
>>> -- wouldn't children of the Apocalypse form her natural
>>> peer group?
>> War and Terror, and probably Clancy, were raised as
>> anthropomorphic personifications, though. They would have very
>> little in common with "mostly mortals" like Susan and Lobsang.
>>
> Unlike Lobsang and Susan, Ysabell was raised in a household shared by
> only one human (Alberto) and a master looking less human than War. This
> raises the question of how Clancy, especially, was raised. There is no
> mention of Death having ever been raised, or War for the matter.
>
I would have thought that Terror and Panic are anthropomorphic
personifications (APs), the same as the A boyz. (After all War creates
[procreates :-)] Terror and Panic in those whom he visits, thus these
two APs are in offspring/sons) Clancy has me puzzled but perhaps he is:-
a) like the substance(?) Sneed (sp) mentioned in the Science of
Discworld, something which any intelligent race would have discovered.
(Clancy is an American sounding name and so could be the feeling of Deep
Foreboding, no offence to those over the pond)
b) a particularly Discworldian emotion or
c) an acquired orphan/tag-along like Ystabell, Death's daughter.
d) a joke/witticism! (never I hear you cry, what in a DW book, heaven
forbid)
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| Re: [R]Terror, Panic, Clancy and Thief of Time [message #263822 ] |
Mo, 08 Mai 2006 22:38 |
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Also Sprach Mark Foweraker:
> I would have thought that Terror and Panic are
> anthropomorphic personifications (APs), the same as the A
> boyz. (After all War creates [procreates :-)] Terror and
> Panic in those whom he visits, thus these two APs are in
> offspring/sons) Clancy has me puzzled but perhaps he
....she. She looks about seven, and wears a pony-club badge.
I don't know if there's any reason Terror and Panic can't be
anthropomorphic personifications *and* the children of War and
Mrs War, born in the natural manner.
> (Clancy is an American sounding name and so could be the
> feeling of Deep Foreboding, no offence to those over the
> pond)
If you stick the words War Panic Terror and Clancy into a
search engine, you definitely get evidence Clancy is American
8-)...
If we go by War = Ares, Panic = Phobos, Terros = Deimos, then,
logically, Clancy would be Concordia.
--
Dave
Official Absentee of EU Skiffeysoc
http://www.eusa.ed.ac.uk/societies/sesoc
"What do monsters have nightmares about?"
"Me!"
-The Doctor
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| Re: [R]Terror, Panic, Clancy and Thief of Time [message #264043 ] |
Di, 09 Mai 2006 21:02 |
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Daibhid Ceanaideach wrote:
> Also Sprach Mark Foweraker:
>
>
>
>>I would have thought that Terror and Panic are
>>anthropomorphic personifications (APs), the same as the A
>>boyz. (After all War creates [procreates :-)] Terror and
>>Panic in those whom he visits, thus these two APs are in
>>offspring/sons) Clancy has me puzzled but perhaps he
>
>
> ...she. She looks about seven, and wears a pony-club badge.
>
> I don't know if there's any reason Terror and Panic can't be
> anthropomorphic personifications *and* the children of War and
> Mrs War, born in the natural manner.
>
>
>>(Clancy is an American sounding name and so could be the
>>feeling of Deep Foreboding, no offence to those over the
>>pond)
>
>
> If you stick the words War Panic Terror and Clancy into a
> search engine, you definitely get evidence Clancy is American
> 8-)...
>
> If we go by War = Ares, Panic = Phobos, Terros = Deimos, then,
> logically, Clancy would be Concordia.
>
Or, Clancy could be short for Clemence (Latin /clementia/, mildness),
a female name, although it has the male form "Clement"[1]. Mildness
as the daughter of War might perhaps be the personification of
violence as a means to peace, hence the patron of advocates of
strategic intervention?
[1] Further perusal of dictionary entry turns up the variant
"Clamancia, Owston Parish Reg 1676". Perhaps is this archaic form
found its way to America and was then shortened..?
--
Jen[nifer Stone]
jmstone at lithoi dot demon dot co dot uk
"In housing his great tortoise, Tsang Wen-Chung
had the capitals of the pillars carved in the
shape of hills and the rafter posts painted in
a duckweed design. What is one to think of his
intelligence?" Confucius, /The Analects/
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| Re: [R]Terror, Panic, Clancy and Thief of Time [message #264048 ] |
Di, 09 Mai 2006 22:34 |
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Also Sprach Jennifer Stone:
> Daibhid Ceanaideach wrote:
>> Also Sprach Mark Foweraker:
>>
>>
>>
>>>I would have thought that Terror and Panic are
>>>anthropomorphic personifications (APs), the same as the A
>>>boyz. (After all War creates [procreates :-)] Terror and
>>>Panic in those whom he visits, thus these two APs are in
>>>offspring/sons) Clancy has me puzzled but perhaps he
>>
>>
>> ...she. She looks about seven, and wears a pony-club
>> badge.
>>
>> I don't know if there's any reason Terror and Panic can't
>> be anthropomorphic personifications *and* the children of
>> War and Mrs War, born in the natural manner.
>>
>>
>>>(Clancy is an American sounding name and so could be the
>>>feeling of Deep Foreboding, no offence to those over the
>>>pond)
>>
>>
>> If you stick the words War Panic Terror and Clancy into a
>> search engine, you definitely get evidence Clancy is
>> American 8-)...
>>
>> If we go by War = Ares, Panic = Phobos, Terros = Deimos,
>> then, logically, Clancy would be Concordia.
>>
>
> Or, Clancy could be short for Clemence (Latin /clementia/,
> mildness), a female name, although it has the male form
> "Clement"[1]. Mildness as the daughter of War might
> perhaps be the personification of violence as a means to
> peace, hence the patron of advocates of strategic
> intervention?
Actually, despite her parentage[1], Concordia (Harmonia to the
Greeks) was the goddess of peace. So Clementia, which also
suggests "clemency" fits quite well.
[1]Her mother was Aphrodite. Which, if you think about the
effect *she* has on people, doesn't really explain it.
--
Dave
Official Absentee of EU Skiffeysoc
http://www.eusa.ed.ac.uk/societies/sesoc
"What do monsters have nightmares about?"
"Me!"
-The Doctor
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| Re: [R]Terror, Panic, Clancy and Thief of Time [message #264157 ] |
Mi, 10 Mai 2006 13:25 |
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From the Collected Witterings of Jennifer Stone, volume 23:
> Daibhid Ceanaideach wrote:
>> If we go by War = Ares, Panic = Phobos, Terros = Deimos, then,
>> logically, Clancy would be Concordia.
>>
>
> Or, Clancy could be short for Clemence (Latin /clementia/, mildness),
> a female name, although it has the male form "Clement"[1]. Mildness
> as the daughter of War might perhaps be the personification of
> violence as a means to peace, hence the patron of advocates of
> strategic intervention?
And here's me thinking that it was a skit on *Tom* Clancy, whose books often
involve terror, sometimes involve panic, but never quite seem to involve a
real war...
--
If life gives you lemmings, jump off a cliff.
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